28 Jul
Omer
Misuse of Hadith to misguide Sunnis
Even Prophet (salallaho alaihi wasalam) has himself said in sahih hadith that: HE HAS NOT BEEN SENT TO CUT OPN HEARTS OF PEOPKL
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As we can see aamir have used this hadith off and on against sunnis for their guess or common sense. This is absolutely a misuse of hadith out of context and at wrong place.
People who are influenced with deobandis are found normally using this hadith against sunnis.
Anyways I don’t care what aamir is doing but I do care about other sunnis who may get misguided.
For this I have collected this article below to show the reality and all sunnis who have any sort of doubts against it should clear their minds that our beloved Prophet (Salala ho Alahay Wa salam) is far above than the lies people attribute to Him (Salala ho Alahay Wa salam)
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As we can see aamir have used this hadith off and on against sunnis for their guess or common sense. This is absolutely a misuse of hadith out of context and at wrong place.
People who are influenced with deobandis are found normally using this hadith against sunnis.
Anyways I don’t care what aamir is doing but I do care about other sunnis who may get misguided.
For this I have collected this article below to show the reality and all sunnis who have any sort of doubts against it should clear their minds that our beloved Prophet (Salala ho Alahay Wa salam) is far above than the lies people attribute to Him (Salala ho Alahay Wa salam)
28 Jul
Omer
The greatest and most definitive answers on this chapter were presented in the masterpiece of Imām Ahmad Ridā Khān, al-Dawla al-Makkiyya fīl-Mādda al-Ghaybiyya (written in 1323 and expanded with footnotes through later years)
although he wrote no less than eight other works on the topic: Saltanatu al-Mustafā fī Malakūt kulli al-Warā (1297/1880 The Supremacy of the Elect One in the Kingdom of All Creation.);
Mil. al-Jayb bi .Ilm al-Ghayb (1318/1900 .Fullness of the Heart with the Knowledge of the Unseen.);
Inbā al-Mustafā H āla Sirri wa Akhfā (1318/1900 The Disclosure by the Elect One of the Secrets and of Things More Hidden.);
al-Lulu al-Maknūn fī Ilm al-Bashīr mā Kāna wamā Yakūn (1318/1900 .The Concealed Pearl: The Knowledge of the Bringer of Good Tidings in What Was and What Shall Be.);
Ibrā al-Majnūn (1323/1905 .The Cure of the Mad.);
al-Jalā. al-Kāmil (1326/1908 .The Complete Unveiling.);
Izāhat al-Ghayb (1330/1911 .The Removal of Invisibility.);
and Habl al-Warā (.The Rope of Creatures.).
although he wrote no less than eight other works on the topic: Saltanatu al-Mustafā fī Malakūt kulli al-Warā (1297/1880 The Supremacy of the Elect One in the Kingdom of All Creation.);
Mil. al-Jayb bi .Ilm al-Ghayb (1318/1900 .Fullness of the Heart with the Knowledge of the Unseen.);
Inbā al-Mustafā H āla Sirri wa Akhfā (1318/1900 The Disclosure by the Elect One of the Secrets and of Things More Hidden.);
al-Lulu al-Maknūn fī Ilm al-Bashīr mā Kāna wamā Yakūn (1318/1900 .The Concealed Pearl: The Knowledge of the Bringer of Good Tidings in What Was and What Shall Be.);
Ibrā al-Majnūn (1323/1905 .The Cure of the Mad.);
al-Jalā. al-Kāmil (1326/1908 .The Complete Unveiling.);
Izāhat al-Ghayb (1330/1911 .The Removal of Invisibility.);
and Habl al-Warā (.The Rope of Creatures.).
28 Jul
Omer
The following authentic reports prove beyond doubt the falsehood and great ignorance of the above claims.
First,
there are countless reports on the Prophet.s " cognizance of someone.s innermost feelings. Among them:
1 - After the conquest of Makka while Abū Sufyān was sitting near the Kaba and thinking to himself, .I have no idea how Muhammad beat us. whereupon the Prophet " came up to him, slapped him in the chest and said: .With Allāh he is
beating you!.
(Narrated from .Abd Allāh ibn Abī Bakr ibn Hazm by Ibn Asākir (23:458-459) cf Isāba (3:414) and Dahlāns Sīra (2:84). Also from Ibn .Abbās by Ibn .Asākir (23:457-458) and others cf Is āba (3:413), Bidāya (4:304), Khas āis. (1:441), and Dahlāns Sīra(2:84).)
First,
there are countless reports on the Prophet.s " cognizance of someone.s innermost feelings. Among them:
1 - After the conquest of Makka while Abū Sufyān was sitting near the Kaba and thinking to himself, .I have no idea how Muhammad beat us. whereupon the Prophet " came up to him, slapped him in the chest and said: .With Allāh he is
beating you!.
(Narrated from .Abd Allāh ibn Abī Bakr ibn Hazm by Ibn Asākir (23:458-459) cf Isāba (3:414) and Dahlāns Sīra (2:84). Also from Ibn .Abbās by Ibn .Asākir (23:457-458) and others cf Is āba (3:413), Bidāya (4:304), Khas āis. (1:441), and Dahlāns Sīra(2:84).)
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2 - The Prophet " announced to .Amr ibn Wahb al-Jumah that he had come to kill him on contract by Safwān ibn Umayya. Umayr was startled and asked, .What did I contract with him?. .You let him task you with killing me in exchange for taking charge of your dependents and paying off your debt, but Allāh put an obstacle between you and your plan!. .Umayr said: .I bear witness that you are the Messenger of Allāh!. Then he returned to Makka and began to call the people to Islām.
(Narrated mursal through (1) Mūsā ibn .Uqba (in his Maghāzī) from al-Zuhrī by al-Tabarānī in al-Kabīr (17:59-60) and al-Taym in Dalāil al-Nubuwwa (p. 140-141 #153); (2) Abū al-Aswad from .Urwa (in his Maghāzī) also in al-Kabīr (17:56-57) and in Ibn Hishām (3:212-215) cf. al-Dhahabī, Tārīkh (Maghāzī p. 71-73); and (3) through Ibn Ish. āq (in his Sīra) from Muh. ammad ibn Ja.far ibn al-Zubayr, also in al-Kabīr (17:58). Ibn Hajar cites all three chains in al-Is. āba (4:726) then says: .It came to us through another, muttas. ilchain narrated by Ibn Mandah through Ibn al-Azhar, from .Abd al-Razzāq, from Ja.far ibn Sulaymān, from Abū .Imrān al-Jawnī [.Abdal-Malik ibn Habīb], from Anas or another. [Cf. al-Dhahabī, Tārīkh (Maghāzī p. 99-100).] Ibn Mandah said, .This is a single-chained report (gharīb), we do not know it to be from Abū .Imrān except this way.. Al-Tabarānī narrated it from .Abd al-Razzāq and said, .I do not know it to be narrated except from Anas ibn Mālik... Cf. also Ibn Sayyid al-Nās, .Uyūn al-Athar (1:270).)
(Narrated mursal through (1) Mūsā ibn .Uqba (in his Maghāzī) from al-Zuhrī by al-Tabarānī in al-Kabīr (17:59-60) and al-Taym in Dalāil al-Nubuwwa (p. 140-141 #153); (2) Abū al-Aswad from .Urwa (in his Maghāzī) also in al-Kabīr (17:56-57) and in Ibn Hishām (3:212-215) cf. al-Dhahabī, Tārīkh (Maghāzī p. 71-73); and (3) through Ibn Ish. āq (in his Sīra) from Muh. ammad ibn Ja.far ibn al-Zubayr, also in al-Kabīr (17:58). Ibn Hajar cites all three chains in al-Is. āba (4:726) then says: .It came to us through another, muttas. ilchain narrated by Ibn Mandah through Ibn al-Azhar, from .Abd al-Razzāq, from Ja.far ibn Sulaymān, from Abū .Imrān al-Jawnī [.Abdal-Malik ibn Habīb], from Anas or another. [Cf. al-Dhahabī, Tārīkh (Maghāzī p. 99-100).] Ibn Mandah said, .This is a single-chained report (gharīb), we do not know it to be from Abū .Imrān except this way.. Al-Tabarānī narrated it from .Abd al-Razzāq and said, .I do not know it to be narrated except from Anas ibn Mālik... Cf. also Ibn Sayyid al-Nās, .Uyūn al-Athar (1:270).)
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Similarly the would-be assassin Fadāla ibn Umayr ibn al-Mulawwih al-Laythī was slowly approaching the Prophet " during circumambulation the year of the conquest of Makka when the Prophet " suddenly said: .Is this Fad.āla?. He said, .Yes, Fad.āla, Messenger of Allāh!. The Prophet " said: .What were you saying to yourself?. He said: .Nothing! I was remembering Allāh!. The Prophet " smiled then he said: .Ask forgiveness of Allāh!. Then he placed his hand on Fad.āla.s chest. Fad.āla said: .I swear by Allāh that he did not lift his hand before he had become the dearest and most beloved of all creatures on the face of the earth to me..
(Narrated by Ibn Hishām (5:80) cf. al-Kilā.ī, Iktifā. (2:230), Sīra H. alabiyya (3:56), Ibn Kathīr, Bidāya (4:308), Ibn al-Qayyim, Zād (3:412), and Ibn Hajar, Isāba (5:372).)
(The Prophet " recommended to Fadāla in particular: .Never neglect the two .Asrs: the prayer before sunrise and that before sunset.)
(Narrated by al-Bukhārī in al-Tārīkh al-Kabīr (7:124).)
(Narrated by Ibn Hishām (5:80) cf. al-Kilā.ī, Iktifā. (2:230), Sīra H. alabiyya (3:56), Ibn Kathīr, Bidāya (4:308), Ibn al-Qayyim, Zād (3:412), and Ibn Hajar, Isāba (5:372).)
(The Prophet " recommended to Fadāla in particular: .Never neglect the two .Asrs: the prayer before sunrise and that before sunset.)
(Narrated by al-Bukhārī in al-Tārīkh al-Kabīr (7:124).)
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4 - Similarly with the would-be assassin Shayba ibn .Uthmān in the battle of H. unayn: .I drew my sword and approached to carry out my intent against him ". I raised my sword and was almost standing over him when he put up, in front of me, a blaze of fire like a lightning bolt, which almost charred me! I put up my hand before my eyes, fearing to lose my sight, then I turned towards the Messenger of Allāh ". At that time he called me: .Shayba, come here!. I wentnear him and he wiped my breast then said: .O Allāh, protect him from the devil!. I swear it by Allāh! . at that very moment, he became more beloved to me than my hearing, my sight, and my own life! Allāh took away everything that was in me.. Then Shayba began to fight on the side of the Prophet ".
(Narrated through al-Wāqidī by Ibn .Asākir (23:255-256) and Ibn al-Jawzī in S.
ifat al-Safwa (1:727-728).)
(Narrated through al-Wāqidī by Ibn .Asākir (23:255-256) and Ibn al-Jawzī in S.
ifat al-Safwa (1:727-728).)
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5 - When the Prophet " took a ransom from al-Abbās in exchange for his release when he was captured after the battle of Badr, the latter said, .You have made me the poor man of Quraysh for the rest of my life!. The Prophet " replied: .How can you be the poor man of Quraysh when you deposited gold nuggets with Umm al-Fad. l and told her, .If I am killed, I have left you rich for the rest of your life.?. Hearing this, he said, .I bear witness that none but she and I know this, and truly I know that you are the Messenger of Allāh!.
(Narrated from Ibn .Abbās by Abū Nu.aym in Dalāil al-Nubuwwa (p. 476-477 #409-410) with two good chains cf. Ibn Hajar, Fath(7:322).)
(Narrated from Ibn .Abbās by Abū Nu.aym in Dalāil al-Nubuwwa (p. 476-477 #409-410) with two good chains cf. Ibn Hajar, Fath(7:322).)
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5a - Ibn Kathir mentions another version in which al-.Abbās said to the Messenger of Allāh ": I do not have enough to pay my ransom.. The Prophet " replied: .Then where is the money you and Umm al-Fad.l buried before you told her, .If anything happens to me during my trip, use this money for my two sons al-Fad.l and Qutham.?. Al-.Abbās said: .By Allāh, I swear I know you are the Messenger of Allāh! None knows this other than myself and Umm al-Fad.l..
(Cited by Ibn Kathīr in his Tafsīr (2:328) Sūrat 8:70 and al-Bidāya, chapter on the prisoners of Badr)
(Cited by Ibn Kathīr in his Tafsīr (2:328) Sūrat 8:70 and al-Bidāya, chapter on the prisoners of Badr)
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6 - Similarly, when Nawfal ibn al-Hārith was captured at Badr, the Messenger of Allāh " said to him: .Ransom yourself, Nawfal!. He replied: .I have nothing with which to ransom myself!. The Prophet " said: Ransom yourself with your property in Jeddah.. Nawfal said: .I bear witness you are the Messenger of Allāh!. Then he ransomed himself with it.
(37Narrated by Ibn Sa.d (4:46), al-Hākim (3:246=1990 ed. 3:274), Ibn .Abd al-Barr, al-Istī.āb (4:1512 #2642), and Ibn Hajar, al-Is. āba(6:479). The property consisted of spears and the ransom was 1,000 of them.)
(37Narrated by Ibn Sa.d (4:46), al-Hākim (3:246=1990 ed. 3:274), Ibn .Abd al-Barr, al-Istī.āb (4:1512 #2642), and Ibn Hajar, al-Is. āba(6:479). The property consisted of spears and the ransom was 1,000 of them.)
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7 - The Prophet " sent .Āisha to a woman he was proposing to so that she may take a look at her. [When she came back] she said, .I saw nothing to talk about.. He replied: .You saw a mole on her cheek that made every little hair of yours stand on end!. She said, .There is nothing secret to you! Who can hide anything from you?.
(Mā dūnaka sirru waman yastatī.u an yaktumak. Narrated from (1) Ibn Abī Mulayka, from .Ā.isha by al-T. abarānī and Abū Nu.aym as cited by Ibn H. ajar in al-Is. āba (7:726 s.v. Sharāf) from Abū Mūsā al-Asbahānī.s Dhayl Asmā. al-S. ah. āba and (2) .Abd al-Rah.mān ibn Sābit. , from .Ā.isha by Ibn Sa.d (8:160) through al-Wāqidī, Abū Nu.aym in Tārīkh Asbahān (2:188), al-Khatīb (1:301 #165)
from the latter, and Ibn .Asākir in Tārīkh Dimashq (51:36) from the latter, all through Jābir ibn Yazīd al-Ju.fī who is weak. CfAhmad, al-.Ilal (2:570 #3695), Kanz (#35460), al-Ahdab, Zawāid (1:318-320 #77), and al-Haythamī (9:254). .Ā.isha.s very last phrase (.Who..) is only in Abū Nu.aym, al-Khatīb, and Ibn Asākir.)
(Mā dūnaka sirru waman yastatī.u an yaktumak. Narrated from (1) Ibn Abī Mulayka, from .Ā.isha by al-T. abarānī and Abū Nu.aym as cited by Ibn H. ajar in al-Is. āba (7:726 s.v. Sharāf) from Abū Mūsā al-Asbahānī.s Dhayl Asmā. al-S. ah. āba and (2) .Abd al-Rah.mān ibn Sābit. , from .Ā.isha by Ibn Sa.d (8:160) through al-Wāqidī, Abū Nu.aym in Tārīkh Asbahān (2:188), al-Khatīb (1:301 #165)
from the latter, and Ibn .Asākir in Tārīkh Dimashq (51:36) from the latter, all through Jābir ibn Yazīd al-Ju.fī who is weak. CfAhmad, al-.Ilal (2:570 #3695), Kanz (#35460), al-Ahdab, Zawāid (1:318-320 #77), and al-Haythamī (9:254). .Ā.isha.s very last phrase (.Who..) is only in Abū Nu.aym, al-Khatīb, and Ibn Asākir.)
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8 - To some of his companions who came in to see him after having looked at a woman on their way .Uthmān ibn .Affān said: .Each of you comes in with fornicating eyes.. They said: .What! Is there revelation after the Prophet?. He replied: .Not revelation, but truthful insight. (lā wa lākin firāsa s.ādiqa).
(Cited by al-Qurtubī in his Tafsīr (10:44) and al-Qārī in Sharh Musnad Abī H. anīfa, h. adīth ittaqū firāsat al-mumin.)
(Cited by al-Qurtubī in his Tafsīr (10:44) and al-Qārī in Sharh Musnad Abī H. anīfa, h. adīth ittaqū firāsat al-mumin.)
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9 - At one time a young Christian asked al-Junayd al-Baghdadī: What is the meaning of the Prophets hadīth: Beware the vision of the believer for he sees with the light of Allāh?
(Narrated from Abū Umāma al-Bāhilī by al-Tabarānī in al-Mujam al-Kabīr (8:121) and Musnad al-Shāmiyyīn (2:407) with a fair (hasan) chain according to al-Haythamī in Majma al-Zawāid (10:268); Ibn Abd al-Barr in Jāmi Bayān al-Ilm (1:677 #1197) with a fair chain according to al-Zuhayrī; Abū Nuaym in Hilyat al-Awliyā (6:118) and al-Arbaīn alā Madhhab al-Mutah aqqiqīn min al-Sūfiyya (p. 104); al-Khat īb in al-Tārīkh (5:99); al-Bayhaqī in al-Zuhd al-Kabīr (p. 159-160 #358); al-Suyūt who declared it fair (hasan) in al-Laāli al-Mas nūa (2:329-330) as did al-Shawkānī in al-Fawāid al-Majmūa (p. 243-244). The hadīth is also narrated from Abū Saīd al-Khudrī by al-Tirmidhī (gharīb); al-Bukhārī in his Tārīkh (7:354); al-Tabarī and Ibn Kathīr in their Tafsīrs (14:31-32 and 2:556); Abū Nuaym in al-Hilya (10:281-282); al-Uqaylī in al-Duafā (4:129); Abū al-Shaykh in al-Amthāl (p. 78); al-Sulamī in Tabaqāt al-S ūfiyya (p. 156) and al-Arbaīn; al-Khatīb in Tārīkh Baghdād (3:191, 7:242); al-Qushayrī in his Risāla (2:480); al-Qudāī in Musnad al-Shihāb (1:387); al-Mālīnī on al-Arbaīn (p. 91), and Ibn al-Subkī in Tabaqāt al-Shāfi.iyya al-Kubrā (2:268). Also narrated from Thawbān, Ibn Umar, and Abū Hurayra by al-Tabarī, Abū al-Shaykh, Abū Nuaym, Ibn Abī Hātim, and Ibn Kathīr in their commentaries of the verse (Therein lie portents for those who read the signs) (15:75); and from other Companions Shaykh Mahmūd Mamdūh in his monograph Bishārat al-Mu.min grades the hadīth sahīh)
Al-Junayd remained immersed in thought then lifted his head and said: .Submit, for the time has come for you to accept Islām.. The young man embraced Islām on the spot.
(Al-Qushayrī, Risāla cf Ibn Kathīr, Bidāya (11:114); Ibn Khallikān, Wafayāt (1:374).)
(Narrated from Abū Umāma al-Bāhilī by al-Tabarānī in al-Mujam al-Kabīr (8:121) and Musnad al-Shāmiyyīn (2:407) with a fair (hasan) chain according to al-Haythamī in Majma al-Zawāid (10:268); Ibn Abd al-Barr in Jāmi Bayān al-Ilm (1:677 #1197) with a fair chain according to al-Zuhayrī; Abū Nuaym in Hilyat al-Awliyā (6:118) and al-Arbaīn alā Madhhab al-Mutah aqqiqīn min al-Sūfiyya (p. 104); al-Khat īb in al-Tārīkh (5:99); al-Bayhaqī in al-Zuhd al-Kabīr (p. 159-160 #358); al-Suyūt who declared it fair (hasan) in al-Laāli al-Mas nūa (2:329-330) as did al-Shawkānī in al-Fawāid al-Majmūa (p. 243-244). The hadīth is also narrated from Abū Saīd al-Khudrī by al-Tirmidhī (gharīb); al-Bukhārī in his Tārīkh (7:354); al-Tabarī and Ibn Kathīr in their Tafsīrs (14:31-32 and 2:556); Abū Nuaym in al-Hilya (10:281-282); al-Uqaylī in al-Duafā (4:129); Abū al-Shaykh in al-Amthāl (p. 78); al-Sulamī in Tabaqāt al-S ūfiyya (p. 156) and al-Arbaīn; al-Khatīb in Tārīkh Baghdād (3:191, 7:242); al-Qushayrī in his Risāla (2:480); al-Qudāī in Musnad al-Shihāb (1:387); al-Mālīnī on al-Arbaīn (p. 91), and Ibn al-Subkī in Tabaqāt al-Shāfi.iyya al-Kubrā (2:268). Also narrated from Thawbān, Ibn Umar, and Abū Hurayra by al-Tabarī, Abū al-Shaykh, Abū Nuaym, Ibn Abī Hātim, and Ibn Kathīr in their commentaries of the verse (Therein lie portents for those who read the signs) (15:75); and from other Companions Shaykh Mahmūd Mamdūh in his monograph Bishārat al-Mu.min grades the hadīth sahīh)
Al-Junayd remained immersed in thought then lifted his head and said: .Submit, for the time has come for you to accept Islām.. The young man embraced Islām on the spot.
(Al-Qushayrī, Risāla cf Ibn Kathīr, Bidāya (11:114); Ibn Khallikān, Wafayāt (1:374).)
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10 - Al-Qādī .Iyād wrote in al-Shifā., chapter on the Prophet.s " knowledge of the unseen:He " also told his Companions about their secrets and inward thoughts. He told them about the secrets of the hypocrites and their rejection and what they said about him and the believers, so that one of the hypocrites would say to his friend: .Be quiet! By Allāh, if he does not have someone to inform him, the very stones of the plain would inform him..
(Spoken by Abū Sufyān ibn H. arb to .Attāb ibn Asīd and al-H. ārith ibn Hishām outside the Kaba on the conquest of Makka as the Prophet " was inside with Bilāl, all three of whom became Muslims when the Prophet " subsequently reported their words back to them. Narrated by .Umar ibn Shayba as stated by Ibn H. ajar in al-Is. āba (4:429) cf. al-Kilā.ī, al-Iktifā. (2:230) and al-Māwardī, A.lām
al-Nubuwwa (p. 165).)
(Spoken by Abū Sufyān ibn H. arb to .Attāb ibn Asīd and al-H. ārith ibn Hishām outside the Kaba on the conquest of Makka as the Prophet " was inside with Bilāl, all three of whom became Muslims when the Prophet " subsequently reported their words back to them. Narrated by .Umar ibn Shayba as stated by Ibn H. ajar in al-Is. āba (4:429) cf. al-Kilā.ī, al-Iktifā. (2:230) and al-Māwardī, A.lām
al-Nubuwwa (p. 165).)
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Second, on the Prophets " prediction whether or not someone is going to be blessed with a child:
1 - Ibn .Abbās said: Umm al-Fadl his mother narrated to me that as she passed by the Prophet " while he was sitting in the Chamber (al-Hijr) he said to her: .You are pregnant with a boy. When you give birth, bring him to me.. She said that when she gave birth she brought her child to him and he raised the call to prayer in his right ear and the start of prayer in his left. Then he blew some moist air into his mouth (alba.ahu min rīqih) and named him .Abd Allāh..
(Narrated from Ibn .Abbās by al-T. abarānī in al-Kabīr (10:289-290 #10580), Abū Nu.aym in the Dalāil (p. 550-551 #487), and al-Khat. īb in Tārīkh Baghdād (1:63) cf. al-Silsila al-S ah īha (3:34-35).)
1 - Ibn .Abbās said: Umm al-Fadl his mother narrated to me that as she passed by the Prophet " while he was sitting in the Chamber (al-Hijr) he said to her: .You are pregnant with a boy. When you give birth, bring him to me.. She said that when she gave birth she brought her child to him and he raised the call to prayer in his right ear and the start of prayer in his left. Then he blew some moist air into his mouth (alba.ahu min rīqih) and named him .Abd Allāh..
(Narrated from Ibn .Abbās by al-T. abarānī in al-Kabīr (10:289-290 #10580), Abū Nu.aym in the Dalāil (p. 550-551 #487), and al-Khat. īb in Tārīkh Baghdād (1:63) cf. al-Silsila al-S ah īha (3:34-35).)
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2 - Alī said: The Prophet " told me: A boy shall be born to you after me whom I am giving my name and cognomen (kunya).. meaning Muhammad ibn al-Hanafiyya.
( Muh. ammad ibn .Alī ibn Abī T. ālib. Narrated mursal from al-Mundhir ibn Ya.lā al-Thawrī by Ibn Sa.d (5:91-92), Ibn .Asākir (38:308, 54:327, 54:330) with the latter.s and two other chains, and al-Bayhaqī in the Dalāil as well as from al-Mundhir, from Ibn al-H. anafiyya by Ahmad and Ibn Sa.d (same page), both with a chain of trustworthy narrators per al-Bukhārī.s criterion but a different wording in which .Alī asks permission to use the name if a boy is born. Cf. Kanz (#34330, #37854, #37858).
( Muh. ammad ibn .Alī ibn Abī T. ālib. Narrated mursal from al-Mundhir ibn Ya.lā al-Thawrī by Ibn Sa.d (5:91-92), Ibn .Asākir (38:308, 54:327, 54:330) with the latter.s and two other chains, and al-Bayhaqī in the Dalāil as well as from al-Mundhir, from Ibn al-H. anafiyya by Ahmad and Ibn Sa.d (same page), both with a chain of trustworthy narrators per al-Bukhārī.s criterion but a different wording in which .Alī asks permission to use the name if a boy is born. Cf. Kanz (#34330, #37854, #37858).
28 Jul
Omer
3 - Sad ibn Abī Waqqās lay ill in Makka and was on the brink of death. He
had no children but for one daughter so he said: Messenger of Allāh, shall I give away all my possessions as charity? The Prophet " said no. And so forth until the Prophet " said: .Give away one third, and one third is a lot.. The Messenger of Allāh " then said to him: It may be that you will live on so that people will benefit from you and others will be harmed by you..
(Narrated as part of a longer narration from Sa.d by al-Bukhārī and Muslim)
Subsequently, Allāh cured him of his illness, gave him many sons . five of whom narrated hadīth from him, conquered Iraq at his hands, guided through him the throngs who entered Islām at his hands and shared in the spoils, and harmed through him the throngs of the idolaters against whom he fought, killing some and capturing others. He lived on after that illness for fifty years. Imām al-Nawawī said that this hadīth was among the stunning miracles (mu.jizāt) and that what he " had said came true
(46Al-Nawawī, Sharh.Sah īh.Muslim (11:77-78).)
had no children but for one daughter so he said: Messenger of Allāh, shall I give away all my possessions as charity? The Prophet " said no. And so forth until the Prophet " said: .Give away one third, and one third is a lot.. The Messenger of Allāh " then said to him: It may be that you will live on so that people will benefit from you and others will be harmed by you..
(Narrated as part of a longer narration from Sa.d by al-Bukhārī and Muslim)
Subsequently, Allāh cured him of his illness, gave him many sons . five of whom narrated hadīth from him, conquered Iraq at his hands, guided through him the throngs who entered Islām at his hands and shared in the spoils, and harmed through him the throngs of the idolaters against whom he fought, killing some and capturing others. He lived on after that illness for fifty years. Imām al-Nawawī said that this hadīth was among the stunning miracles (mu.jizāt) and that what he " had said came true
(46Al-Nawawī, Sharh.Sah īh.Muslim (11:77-78).)
28 Jul
Omer
4 - Abū Bakr also predicted to .Āisha, shortly before his death, that his wife was bearing a female child and that she would therefore have to share her inheritance with two sisters instead of just Asmā.; later, his daughter Umm Kulthūm was born.
(Narrated from .Ā.isha by Mālik in his Muwatta., al-Bayhaqī in al-Sunan al-Kubrā (6:170), .Abd al-Razzāq (9:101), Ibn al-Jawzī in Sifat al-S. afwa (1:265), and Muh. ibb al-Dīn al-Tabarī in al-Riyād.al-Nad. ira (2:122-123 #576).)
(Narrated from .Ā.isha by Mālik in his Muwatta., al-Bayhaqī in al-Sunan al-Kubrā (6:170), .Abd al-Razzāq (9:101), Ibn al-Jawzī in Sifat al-S. afwa (1:265), and Muh. ibb al-Dīn al-Tabarī in al-Riyād.al-Nad. ira (2:122-123 #576).)
28 Jul
Omer
Third, on the Prophet.s " prediction of the outcome of battles:
1 - Salama ibn .Amr ibn al-Akwa. said: Alī stayed behind because of ophthalmia when the Messenger of Allāh " was in Khaybar. He said: .How can I stay behind
and not go with the Messenger of Allāh "?. So he went out and caught up with him. On the eve of the victory granted by Allāh the Messenger of Allāh " said: .I swear that tomorrow I shall give the standard to a man whom both Allāh and
His Messenger love, through whom Allāh shall grant victory.. Then, lo and behold! There was .Alī among us unexpectedly. They said, .Here is .Alī!. so he gave him the standard and Allāh granted victory through him..
(Narrated from Salama ibn al-Akwa., Sahl ibn Sad and Abū Hurayra by al-Bukhārī, Muslim, and AhMad)
1 - Salama ibn .Amr ibn al-Akwa. said: Alī stayed behind because of ophthalmia when the Messenger of Allāh " was in Khaybar. He said: .How can I stay behind
and not go with the Messenger of Allāh "?. So he went out and caught up with him. On the eve of the victory granted by Allāh the Messenger of Allāh " said: .I swear that tomorrow I shall give the standard to a man whom both Allāh and
His Messenger love, through whom Allāh shall grant victory.. Then, lo and behold! There was .Alī among us unexpectedly. They said, .Here is .Alī!. so he gave him the standard and Allāh granted victory through him..
(Narrated from Salama ibn al-Akwa., Sahl ibn Sad and Abū Hurayra by al-Bukhārī, Muslim, and AhMad)
28 Jul
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2 - The Prophet "mentioned that one of the Mothers of the Believers would go to war, hearing which .Ā.isha laughed, whereupon he said: .Wait, fair little one (humayrā), lest it be you!. Then he turned to .Alī, saying: .If you have her in your power, treat her kindly!..
(Narrated from Umm Salama by al-Hākim (3:119=1990 ed. 3:129) with a strong chain, cf. al-Suyūtet al., SharhSunan Ibn Mājah(1:178).)
(Narrated from Umm Salama by al-Hākim (3:119=1990 ed. 3:129) with a strong chain, cf. al-Suyūtet al., SharhSunan Ibn Mājah(1:178).)
28 Jul
Omer
A man among the idolaters came out on his camel the day of Uhud and issued a challenge to duel. The people kept back three times. Then al-Zubayr went to fight him and jumped so he was with him on the camel. They fought on top of the camel. The Prophet " said: The one that is bottom-side is a dead man.. Then the idolater fell and al-Zubayr fell on top of him and slew him.
(In al-Dhahabī, Tārīkh al-Islām (Maghāzī p. 172-173) and al-Sālih. ī, Subul al-Hudā (4:287). Al-Zubayr was upset because the Prophet " had given a sword to Abū Dujāna al-Ansārī instead of him his " cousin.)
(In al-Dhahabī, Tārīkh al-Islām (Maghāzī p. 172-173) and al-Sālih. ī, Subul al-Hudā (4:287). Al-Zubayr was upset because the Prophet " had given a sword to Abū Dujāna al-Ansārī instead of him his " cousin.)
28 Jul
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4 - The Prophet " also predicted to .Abd al-Rah.mān ibn Awf before the expedition against Kalb in Dūma (Syria) that he would be victorious and marry the daughter of their king.
(Narrated by al-Wāqidī in al-Maghāzī, Ibn Sa.d (2:89), Ibn Hishām (4:242), and al-Tabarī in his Tārīkh (3:158), cf. al-Nuwayrī in Nihāyat al-Arab (17:209-210), al-S.
ālih. ī, Subul al-Hudā (6:150), al-Nawawī, Tahdhīb al-Asmā. (1:280), al-Dhahabī, Tārīkh (Maghāzīp. 355-356), Ibn Kathīr, Bidāya (4:179) as well as al-Dāraqut.nī in al-Afrād cited by Ibn H. ajar in al-Is. āba under al-Asbagh and Tamādur bint al-As.
bagh.)
(Narrated by al-Wāqidī in al-Maghāzī, Ibn Sa.d (2:89), Ibn Hishām (4:242), and al-Tabarī in his Tārīkh (3:158), cf. al-Nuwayrī in Nihāyat al-Arab (17:209-210), al-S.
ālih. ī, Subul al-Hudā (6:150), al-Nawawī, Tahdhīb al-Asmā. (1:280), al-Dhahabī, Tārīkh (Maghāzīp. 355-356), Ibn Kathīr, Bidāya (4:179) as well as al-Dāraqut.nī in al-Afrād cited by Ibn H. ajar in al-Is. āba under al-Asbagh and Tamādur bint al-As.
bagh.)
28 Jul
Omer
There are countless similar reports.
Al-Qād Iyād wrote in al-Shifā., chapter on the Prophets knowledge of the unseen:
The compilers of the Sahīh and the Imāms have related what he taught his Companions and family about regarding his promises to them of victory over his enemies, the conquests of Makka, al-Qudus, Yemen, Shām and Iraq, and the establishment of security so that a woman could go from Hīra in Iraq to Makka fearing none but Allāh.
Al-Qād Iyād wrote in al-Shifā., chapter on the Prophets knowledge of the unseen:
The compilers of the Sahīh and the Imāms have related what he taught his Companions and family about regarding his promises to them of victory over his enemies, the conquests of Makka, al-Qudus, Yemen, Shām and Iraq, and the establishment of security so that a woman could go from Hīra in Iraq to Makka fearing none but Allāh.
28 Jul
Omer
He said that Madīna would be raided and Khaybar would be conquered by Alī the next day.
He foretold those parts of the world that Allāh was going to open up to his Community and what they would be given of its flowers and fruits, such as the treasures of Chosroes and Caesar.
He told about what would happen among them with regard to sedition, disputes and sectarianism,
acting as those before them had done, their splitting into seventy-three sects, only one of which would be saved, that they would spread out in the earth,
that people would come would wear one garment in the morning and another in the evening, and dish after dish would be placed before them.
They would embellish their houses as the Kaba is embellished.
Then he said at the end of the hadith: .Today you are better than you will be on that day.
He said that they would strut about on the earth and that the girls of Persia and Byzantium would serve them.
Allāh would withdraw their strength from them and the evil ones would overcome the good.
They would fight the Turks and the Khazars and Byzantium.
Chosroes and Persia would be obliterated so that there would be no Chosroes or Persia afterwards.
Caesar would pass away and there would be no Caesar after him.
He mentioned that Byzantium would continue generation after generation until the end of time.
The noblest and best people would be taken away.
When the time grew near, knowledge would be taken away, and sedition and bloodshed would appear.
He said: Woe to the Arabs for an evil that draws near!
He foretold those parts of the world that Allāh was going to open up to his Community and what they would be given of its flowers and fruits, such as the treasures of Chosroes and Caesar.
He told about what would happen among them with regard to sedition, disputes and sectarianism,
acting as those before them had done, their splitting into seventy-three sects, only one of which would be saved, that they would spread out in the earth,
that people would come would wear one garment in the morning and another in the evening, and dish after dish would be placed before them.
They would embellish their houses as the Kaba is embellished.
Then he said at the end of the hadith: .Today you are better than you will be on that day.
He said that they would strut about on the earth and that the girls of Persia and Byzantium would serve them.
Allāh would withdraw their strength from them and the evil ones would overcome the good.
They would fight the Turks and the Khazars and Byzantium.
Chosroes and Persia would be obliterated so that there would be no Chosroes or Persia afterwards.
Caesar would pass away and there would be no Caesar after him.
He mentioned that Byzantium would continue generation after generation until the end of time.
The noblest and best people would be taken away.
When the time grew near, knowledge would be taken away, and sedition and bloodshed would appear.
He said: Woe to the Arabs for an evil that draws near!
28 Jul
Omer
this was taken by the pdf file which sybarite gave about G F Hadad.
And the amazing part is these new scholars when they need real ilm they go to the door step of Ala Hazrat (RA) and later they say they took takfir back nauzubillah.
Kia yah khula tizad nahi hai :D
i will end it with this hadith:
Beware the vision of the believer for he sees with the light of Allāh
And the amazing part is these new scholars when they need real ilm they go to the door step of Ala Hazrat (RA) and later they say they took takfir back nauzubillah.
Kia yah khula tizad nahi hai :D
i will end it with this hadith:
Beware the vision of the believer for he sees with the light of Allāh
31 Jul (5 days ago)
Aamir
Magnificent words of Sheikh Gf Haddad
Irrelvant posting from Sheikh Gf Haddad will not work, here is direct answer from Sheikh Gf Haddad regarding deobandis and praying behind them!
Wa `alaykum as-Salam:
Bismillah al-Rahman al-Rahim:
There is no difference in the generalities of `Aqida and Fiqh between Barelwis and Deobandis. They are both Sunni Hanafis, Sufis, Ash`aris or Maturidis. One stands in need of the best each school has to offer, as indeed hold many of the living prestigious teachers known to both sides.
Among the best commentaries on Sahih Muslim and the Sunan of al-Tirmidhi and Abu Dawud are works by the Deobandis. The Lives of the Sahaba by al-Kandihlawi is a masterpiece. I`la'al-Sunan and Aathaar al-Sunan are very valuable. As for Imam Ahmad Rida Khan and his works, whoever does not recognize their worth as one of the treasures of this Umma is a blasted nincompoop who should wear a dunce cap until he learns.
Both sides are strict Hanafis and mainstream Sufis. We do not endorse the mistakes that anyone might have made, such as uttering words rightly perceived to lack adab in matters of `Aqida or contesting the legality of celebrating Mawlid.
Nor do we endorse Takfir. Demonization of the other, saying they are munafiq is unacceptable. We leave extremism to Najd and its minions. Come together. Sayyid Muhammad `Alawi al-Maliki advised you to do so, Sayyid Yusuf al-Rifa`i advised you, Shaykh `Abd al-Hadi Kharsa advised you, Sayyid Ya`qubi, Dr. al-Nass, others... Do you think you stand for the honor of Allah and His Prophet more than such as these? Think again.
When the situation is such that there is mutual avoidance at mosques, gatherings, etc. then it becomes wajib for every true and sincere Deobandi should seek out his counterparts among Barelwis and for every true and sincere Barelwi to seek out his counterparts among Deobandis, pray together, learn from one another, give salam, and increase love. Disunity is sin. Or are you afraid you will lose reputation or funding? Shame.
Wa `alaykum as-Salam:
Bismillah al-Rahman al-Rahim:
There is no difference in the generalities of `Aqida and Fiqh between Barelwis and Deobandis. They are both Sunni Hanafis, Sufis, Ash`aris or Maturidis. One stands in need of the best each school has to offer, as indeed hold many of the living prestigious teachers known to both sides.
Among the best commentaries on Sahih Muslim and the Sunan of al-Tirmidhi and Abu Dawud are works by the Deobandis. The Lives of the Sahaba by al-Kandihlawi is a masterpiece. I`la'al-Sunan and Aathaar al-Sunan are very valuable. As for Imam Ahmad Rida Khan and his works, whoever does not recognize their worth as one of the treasures of this Umma is a blasted nincompoop who should wear a dunce cap until he learns.
Both sides are strict Hanafis and mainstream Sufis. We do not endorse the mistakes that anyone might have made, such as uttering words rightly perceived to lack adab in matters of `Aqida or contesting the legality of celebrating Mawlid.
Nor do we endorse Takfir. Demonization of the other, saying they are munafiq is unacceptable. We leave extremism to Najd and its minions. Come together. Sayyid Muhammad `Alawi al-Maliki advised you to do so, Sayyid Yusuf al-Rifa`i advised you, Shaykh `Abd al-Hadi Kharsa advised you, Sayyid Ya`qubi, Dr. al-Nass, others... Do you think you stand for the honor of Allah and His Prophet more than such as these? Think again.
When the situation is such that there is mutual avoidance at mosques, gatherings, etc. then it becomes wajib for every true and sincere Deobandi should seek out his counterparts among Barelwis and for every true and sincere Barelwi to seek out his counterparts among Deobandis, pray together, learn from one another, give salam, and increase love. Disunity is sin. Or are you afraid you will lose reputation or funding? Shame.
31 Jul (5 days ago)
Aamir
Here is the resting-place of Shaykh `Abd al-Qadir Gilani and Imam Abu Hanifa bracing for another Mongoloid onslaught. Will you Sunnis still be debating and anathematizing one another because of who said what as the Hour rises? Stressing ikhtilaf and schism is from Shaytan. If this is what the general public chooses to follow, it is their loss even as they shout ALLAHU AKBAR and YA RASULALLAH from God's dawn to the wee hours. Salam.
Hajj Gibril
Shawwal 1423/December 2002
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GF Haddad
http://qa.sunnipath.com/issue_view.asp?HD=7&ID=498&CATE=2
Hajj Gibril
Shawwal 1423/December 2002
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GF Haddad
http://qa.sunnipath.com/issue_view.asp?HD=7&ID=498&CATE=2
31 Jul (5 days ago)
Omer
hahahahahaha
aamir look at yourself
i bet all others who are reading must be laughing at you too
what G F hadad believes have to do with this "misuse of hadith" done by you??
have some shame man
today first you misused Quranic verses all out of context, than you used hadiths nauzubillah and now changing this topic from misuse of hadith to beliefs of G F Hadad
go away man you are not even worth talking. you are simply a waste of time who is trying hard to misguide sunnis here
aamir look at yourself
i bet all others who are reading must be laughing at you too
what G F hadad believes have to do with this "misuse of hadith" done by you??
have some shame man
today first you misused Quranic verses all out of context, than you used hadiths nauzubillah and now changing this topic from misuse of hadith to beliefs of G F Hadad
go away man you are not even worth talking. you are simply a waste of time who is trying hard to misguide sunnis here
31 Jul (5 days ago)
Aamir
Omer's deception
There is absolutly no rejection of the fact that Prophet (salallaho alaihi wasalam) knows about hidden feelings of people, your accusations and lame comments are totally baseless, Alhamdulillah I believe to the extent that Prophet (salallaho alaihi wasalam) is even aware of our inner feelings "RIGHT NOW" however he has made an usool clear that "HE HAS NOT BEEN SENT TO CUT OPEN HEARTS OF PEOPLE and this is something very crucial to undrstand, for example If the hadith which proves Sajda as Sahv is shown then it does not mean that Naudhobillah Prophet (salallaho alaihi wasalam)'s hadith is misused, It is just misunderstanding and trickery which ppl like omer use
He is the exact context of why I said this and omer is hypocrtically not showing the real thing
MsAli in order to prove other Muslims as Kafir said: KAFFIR KAY KUFFR KO ZAHIR KERWANAY KAY LEYEH ESAY SAWAAL POOCHAY JAATAY HEN
To this I replied and these are my exact words
Even Prophet (salallaho alaihi wasalam) has himself said in sahih hadith that: HE HAS NOT BEEN SENT TO CUT OPN HEARTS OF PEOPKL In Islam Fatwas are not given on assumption that my following question will reveal his Kufr, such a strategy is never used for Muslims first of all, Shariah applies on Dhahir only
If omer rejects this then he is directly opposing Prophet (salallaho alaihi wasalam) not me!
He is the exact context of why I said this and omer is hypocrtically not showing the real thing
MsAli in order to prove other Muslims as Kafir said: KAFFIR KAY KUFFR KO ZAHIR KERWANAY KAY LEYEH ESAY SAWAAL POOCHAY JAATAY HEN
To this I replied and these are my exact words
Even Prophet (salallaho alaihi wasalam) has himself said in sahih hadith that: HE HAS NOT BEEN SENT TO CUT OPN HEARTS OF PEOPKL In Islam Fatwas are not given on assumption that my following question will reveal his Kufr, such a strategy is never used for Muslims first of all, Shariah applies on Dhahir only
If omer rejects this then he is directly opposing Prophet (salallaho alaihi wasalam) not me!
31 Jul (5 days ago)
Aamir
@Moderators
This omer is bringing things all out of context and that too from discussion which have been buried, still this person is constantly trying to re-ignite them and that too by deceivingly taking my statements all "out of context"
31 Jul (5 days ago)
'W'aseem
@ Omer
Aamir ki post ko tum wrong use kar rahay hoo, Aamir ne yeh kabh kaha k "Nabi (salalaho alaihi wasalam) ko Dilon ka haal nahi pata tha?" Ms Ali ka Question khud KUFFR hai, kyunke shariat main kisi se KUFFAR karany k liye Question karna bhi KUFFR hai.
Moderator Note:
Last warning for all members (abh kisi ne HATRED post ya thread banaya tu BAN hoga)
*Note: Please donot make any such threads again which may result in sunni fights and source of spreading hatreed among Ahl as-Sunnah wal Jama'h.
Walaykum as-Saalam
Aamir ki post ko tum wrong use kar rahay hoo, Aamir ne yeh kabh kaha k "Nabi (salalaho alaihi wasalam) ko Dilon ka haal nahi pata tha?" Ms Ali ka Question khud KUFFR hai, kyunke shariat main kisi se KUFFAR karany k liye Question karna bhi KUFFR hai.
Moderator Note:
Last warning for all members (abh kisi ne HATRED post ya thread banaya tu BAN hoga)
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Walaykum as-Saalam
31 Jul (5 days ago)
Omer
Even Prophet (salallaho alaihi wasalam) has himself said in sahih hadith that: HE HAS NOT BEEN SENT TO CUT OPN HEARTS OF PEOPKL In Islam Fatwas are not given on assumption that my following question will reveal his Kufr, such a strategy is never used for Muslims first of all, Shariah applies on Dhahir only
aamir any person with little common sense can understand your game easily. you mentioned second part is right. even hadith is right but you mixed 2 different things to achieve your manipulation.
thats what i have clearly mentioned in this thread. so kindly stop crying.
as everyone can see clearly that you tried to turn this thread from hadiths to G F Hadad beliefs.
shame on you
If omer rejects this then he is directly opposing Prophet (salallaho alaihi wasalam) not me!
hahahaha
now your cheap hypcorisy is started again.
can you show me where i mentioned that i have denied any hadith??
plz stop crying.
aamir any person with little common sense can understand your game easily. you mentioned second part is right. even hadith is right but you mixed 2 different things to achieve your manipulation.
thats what i have clearly mentioned in this thread. so kindly stop crying.
as everyone can see clearly that you tried to turn this thread from hadiths to G F Hadad beliefs.
shame on you
If omer rejects this then he is directly opposing Prophet (salallaho alaihi wasalam) not me!
hahahaha
now your cheap hypcorisy is started again.
can you show me where i mentioned that i have denied any hadith??
plz stop crying.
31 Jul (5 days ago)
Omer
'W'aseem
@ Omer
Aamir ki post ko tum wrong use kar rahay hoo, Aamir ne yeh kabh kaha k "Nabi (salalaho alaihi wasalam) ko Dilon ka haal nahi pata tha?" Ms Ali ka Question khud KUFFR hai, kyunke shariat main kisi se KUFFAR karany k liye Question karna bhi KUFFR hai.
wah wah
jo translation aap nai ki hai aamir kai statement ki woh tu khud us ko bhi nahi pata ho gi.
Even Prophet (salallaho alaihi wasalam) has himself said in sahih hadith that: HE HAS NOT BEEN SENT TO CUT OPN HEARTS OF PEOPKL
yah words hain aamir kai is ko kisi sai bhi translate kara lo jo tum nai translation ki hai woh banti hi nahi hai.
agar aap kai khud samajh mai nahi ata tu plz atleast meray upar ilzam na lagaya karo.
Moderator Note:
Last warning for all members (abh kisi ne HATRED post ya thread banaya tu BAN hoga)
yes i can see what you are trying to do.
jab aamir sunnis ko gali dai raha hai tu us time moderators note nahi ata.
jab aamir Quran ki ghalat tafseer dai raha hai tu moderator note nahi ata
jab aamir misuse kar raha hai hadith ko tu us ki translation kuch ki kuch kartay waqt moderator note nahi aa raha??
magar jab aamir ki reality khulti hai tu moderators note aa raha hai.
hahahahaha
pahlai aamir ko samjhao phir aa kar moderator note likhna
@ Omer
Aamir ki post ko tum wrong use kar rahay hoo, Aamir ne yeh kabh kaha k "Nabi (salalaho alaihi wasalam) ko Dilon ka haal nahi pata tha?" Ms Ali ka Question khud KUFFR hai, kyunke shariat main kisi se KUFFAR karany k liye Question karna bhi KUFFR hai.
wah wah
jo translation aap nai ki hai aamir kai statement ki woh tu khud us ko bhi nahi pata ho gi.
Even Prophet (salallaho alaihi wasalam) has himself said in sahih hadith that: HE HAS NOT BEEN SENT TO CUT OPN HEARTS OF PEOPKL
yah words hain aamir kai is ko kisi sai bhi translate kara lo jo tum nai translation ki hai woh banti hi nahi hai.
agar aap kai khud samajh mai nahi ata tu plz atleast meray upar ilzam na lagaya karo.
Moderator Note:
Last warning for all members (abh kisi ne HATRED post ya thread banaya tu BAN hoga)
yes i can see what you are trying to do.
jab aamir sunnis ko gali dai raha hai tu us time moderators note nahi ata.
jab aamir Quran ki ghalat tafseer dai raha hai tu moderator note nahi ata
jab aamir misuse kar raha hai hadith ko tu us ki translation kuch ki kuch kartay waqt moderator note nahi aa raha??
magar jab aamir ki reality khulti hai tu moderators note aa raha hai.
hahahahaha
pahlai aamir ko samjhao phir aa kar moderator note likhna
31 Jul (5 days ago)
Omer
*Note: Please donot make any such threads again which may result in sunni fights and source of spreading hatreed among Ahl as-Sunnah wal Jama'h.
idhar koi sunni fight nahi kar raha hai
jitni bhi fights ho rahi hain un mai aik hi chiz common hai
1 - koi bhi sunni and aamir
2 - koi bhi thread ho fight start karnay wala aamir
3 - har jaga sunniyo ko gali dainay wala sirf aamir.
4 - deobandiyo ka ashiq aur un ko support karnay wala aamir
5 - sunniyo ki community mai kali sheep sirf aamir jo deobandiyo ko support kar raha hai
tu phir sai ankhai khol kar dekhiyae kai kisi bhi thread ko fight mai badalnay aur ronay aur sunniyo ko galiya dainay wala kaun hai
idhar koi sunni fight nahi kar raha hai
jitni bhi fights ho rahi hain un mai aik hi chiz common hai
1 - koi bhi sunni and aamir
2 - koi bhi thread ho fight start karnay wala aamir
3 - har jaga sunniyo ko gali dainay wala sirf aamir.
4 - deobandiyo ka ashiq aur un ko support karnay wala aamir
5 - sunniyo ki community mai kali sheep sirf aamir jo deobandiyo ko support kar raha hai
tu phir sai ankhai khol kar dekhiyae kai kisi bhi thread ko fight mai badalnay aur ronay aur sunniyo ko galiya dainay wala kaun hai
31 Jul (5 days ago)
'W'aseem
@ Omer
You said: wah wah jo translation aap nai ki hai aamir kai statement ki woh tu khud us ko bhi nahi pata ho gi.
Maine Aamir ki post ki translation nahi ki :), main yeh keh raha hoon jis QUESTION k answer main Aamir ne yeh hadith di hai "HE HAS NOT BEEN SENT TO CUT OPN HEARTS OF PEOPKL" Haan tu janab dilon ka haal pata Zaroor tha laikin DILON k raaz paar SHARIA'H main koi HUKUM nahi laga ya jata hai. pehlay baat ko samjho us k baad yeh kaho k koi misguide kar raha hai.
Then u said: yah words hain aamir kai is ko kisi sai bhi translate kara lo jo tum nai translation ki hai woh banti hi nahi hai. agar aap kai khud samajh mai nahi ata tu plz atleast meray upar ilzam na lagaya karo.
Maine HADITH ko Translate nahi kya hai :).
Aur sorry to say yahan koi kisi DEOBANDI ko support nahi kar raha hai.
Konsi Ayyah ya Hadith galat use ki mujhe bhi dikhao :)
You said: wah wah jo translation aap nai ki hai aamir kai statement ki woh tu khud us ko bhi nahi pata ho gi.
Maine Aamir ki post ki translation nahi ki :), main yeh keh raha hoon jis QUESTION k answer main Aamir ne yeh hadith di hai "HE HAS NOT BEEN SENT TO CUT OPN HEARTS OF PEOPKL" Haan tu janab dilon ka haal pata Zaroor tha laikin DILON k raaz paar SHARIA'H main koi HUKUM nahi laga ya jata hai. pehlay baat ko samjho us k baad yeh kaho k koi misguide kar raha hai.
Then u said: yah words hain aamir kai is ko kisi sai bhi translate kara lo jo tum nai translation ki hai woh banti hi nahi hai. agar aap kai khud samajh mai nahi ata tu plz atleast meray upar ilzam na lagaya karo.
Maine HADITH ko Translate nahi kya hai :).
Aur sorry to say yahan koi kisi DEOBANDI ko support nahi kar raha hai.
Konsi Ayyah ya Hadith galat use ki mujhe bhi dikhao :)
31 Jul (5 days ago)
Omer
is baat ka reply mai aamir ki post mai upar dai chuka houn woh read kar saktay hain aap
31 Jul (5 days ago)
'W'aseem
@ Omer
You said: is baat ka reply mai aamir ki post mai upar dai chuka houn woh read kar saktay hain aap
Kis Baat Ka Answer De Chukay Hoo?
"HE HAS NOT BEEN SENT TO CUT OPN HEARTS OF PEOPKL"
^^^^
Aamir ne yeh Hadith kis sence main galat USE ki mujhe sirf Itna sa answer doo. :)
You said: is baat ka reply mai aamir ki post mai upar dai chuka houn woh read kar saktay hain aap
Kis Baat Ka Answer De Chukay Hoo?
"HE HAS NOT BEEN SENT TO CUT OPN HEARTS OF PEOPKL"
^^^^
Aamir ne yeh Hadith kis sence main galat USE ki mujhe sirf Itna sa answer doo. :)
31 Jul (5 days ago)
Omer
aamir any person with little common sense can understand your game easily. you mentioned second part is right. even hadith is right but you mixed 2 different things to achieve your manipulation.
thats what i have clearly mentioned in this thread. so kindly stop crying.
as everyone can see clearly that you tried to turn this thread from hadiths to G F Hadad beliefs.
shame on you
yah mera reply tha aamir ko.
aur further details kai liyae woh hadith zaror parh laina jis mai Sarkar (SAW) nai naam lai kar tamam mushriko aur munafiqo ko namaz sai nikal diya tha
thats what i have clearly mentioned in this thread. so kindly stop crying.
as everyone can see clearly that you tried to turn this thread from hadiths to G F Hadad beliefs.
shame on you
yah mera reply tha aamir ko.
aur further details kai liyae woh hadith zaror parh laina jis mai Sarkar (SAW) nai naam lai kar tamam mushriko aur munafiqo ko namaz sai nikal diya tha
31 Jul (5 days ago)
'W'aseem
You said: yah mera reply tha aamir ko. aur further details kai liyae woh hadith zaror parh laina jis mai Sarkar (SAW) nai naam lai kar tamam mushriko aur munafiqo ko namaz sai nikal diya tha.
Aqa (salalahu alaihi wasalam) ka kisi ko naam lekar nikalna "Sharia'h" main "Ghayb" paar hukum lagany ki Dalil nahi hai. (kyunke Ilm e Ghayb Awam ul Nas ko nahi hai)
Issi liye Islam main kisi k DIL MAIN JHANKNAY ki Ijazat nahi hai. (Fatwa hamesha ZAHIR paar diya jata hai)
MsAli Ko Ju Reply Aamir Ne Diya us main hadith ka wrong use kabh hai? (Ju tumnay yeh thread banai hai - [Misuse of Hadith to misguide Sunnis])
Aqa (salalahu alaihi wasalam) ka kisi ko naam lekar nikalna "Sharia'h" main "Ghayb" paar hukum lagany ki Dalil nahi hai. (kyunke Ilm e Ghayb Awam ul Nas ko nahi hai)
Issi liye Islam main kisi k DIL MAIN JHANKNAY ki Ijazat nahi hai. (Fatwa hamesha ZAHIR paar diya jata hai)
MsAli Ko Ju Reply Aamir Ne Diya us main hadith ka wrong use kabh hai? (Ju tumnay yeh thread banai hai - [Misuse of Hadith to misguide Sunnis])
31 Jul (5 days ago)
Omer
Aqa (salalahu alaihi wasalam) ka kisi ko naam lekar nikalna "Sharia'h" main "Ghayb" paar hukum lagany ki Dalil nahi hai.
chalo ji khair ho gayee.
(kyunke Ilm e Ghayb Awam ul Nas ko nahi hai)
aik aur khair ho gayee
upar hi hadith di hai kai momin ki nigah sai daro kai woh Allah kai noor sai dekhta hai.
aur us ka proof bhi mojud hai:
To some of his companions who came in to see him after having looked at a woman on their way Uthmān ibn Affān said: Each of you comes in with fornicating eyes.. They said: What! Is there revelation after the Prophet? He replied: Not revelation, but truthful insight (lā wa lākin firāsa s.ādiqa).
ab aap ki is baat sai hi pata chal gaya kai agay baat karna time waste karna hi hai
shaid koi aisi book nahi mili ho gi jis mai ilm-e-ghaib kaisai hai waliyo mai us ka pata ho.
ab yah nahi kahna kai awam un naas kaha hai kiu kai takfir ya fatwa alim ki taraf sai ata hai awam un naas ki taraf sai nahi
chalo ji khair ho gayee.
(kyunke Ilm e Ghayb Awam ul Nas ko nahi hai)
aik aur khair ho gayee
upar hi hadith di hai kai momin ki nigah sai daro kai woh Allah kai noor sai dekhta hai.
aur us ka proof bhi mojud hai:
To some of his companions who came in to see him after having looked at a woman on their way Uthmān ibn Affān said: Each of you comes in with fornicating eyes.. They said: What! Is there revelation after the Prophet? He replied: Not revelation, but truthful insight (lā wa lākin firāsa s.ādiqa).
ab aap ki is baat sai hi pata chal gaya kai agay baat karna time waste karna hi hai
shaid koi aisi book nahi mili ho gi jis mai ilm-e-ghaib kaisai hai waliyo mai us ka pata ho.
ab yah nahi kahna kai awam un naas kaha hai kiu kai takfir ya fatwa alim ki taraf sai ata hai awam un naas ki taraf sai nahi
1 Aug (4 days ago)
'W'aseem
You said: ab aap ki is baat sai hi pata chal gaya kai agay baat karna time waste karna hi hai. shaid koi aisi book nahi mili ho gi jis mai ilm-e-ghaib kaisai hai waliyo mai us ka pata ho. ab yah nahi kahna kai awam un naas kaha hai kiu kai takfir ya fatwa alim ki taraf sai ata hai awam un naas ki taraf sai nahi
Janab "Ghayb" ka ILM hona Alag baat hai, us paar "FATWA" nahi diya ja sakta na hi woh "FATWA" Sharia'h main Kabool hai.
AlaHazrat (rehmatullah alayh) ne issi liye "Ismail Dehalvi" paar "FATWA" nahi diya kyunke us ki TAWBA bhi "Ghayb" k aamr main se hi thi. :) (sirf Tawba KOUL paar aitmad kya)
Abh kya kaho gaye AlaHazrat (rehmatullah alayh) ko "Sharia'h" ka sahih ILM nahi tha? ya AlaHazrat (rehmatullah alayh) ne "Ismail Dehalvi" k Case main "Suleh Kulli" Karli Thi? ;)
Please Usool k Mutabiq Answer Dena is Time :)
Janab "Ghayb" ka ILM hona Alag baat hai, us paar "FATWA" nahi diya ja sakta na hi woh "FATWA" Sharia'h main Kabool hai.
AlaHazrat (rehmatullah alayh) ne issi liye "Ismail Dehalvi" paar "FATWA" nahi diya kyunke us ki TAWBA bhi "Ghayb" k aamr main se hi thi. :) (sirf Tawba KOUL paar aitmad kya)
Abh kya kaho gaye AlaHazrat (rehmatullah alayh) ko "Sharia'h" ka sahih ILM nahi tha? ya AlaHazrat (rehmatullah alayh) ne "Ismail Dehalvi" k Case main "Suleh Kulli" Karli Thi? ;)
Please Usool k Mutabiq Answer Dena is Time :)
1 Aug (4 days ago)
Omer
koi jawab nahi hai
kiu kai jo samajh ka level tumhara hai woh abhi is laiq nahi howa hai kai koi is tarha ki baat ki jai
tu sorry bhai aap sahi houn gai
magar jo mera kahna hai woh mai nai likh diya hai.
kiu kai jo samajh ka level tumhara hai woh abhi is laiq nahi howa hai kai koi is tarha ki baat ki jai
tu sorry bhai aap sahi houn gai
magar jo mera kahna hai woh mai nai likh diya hai.
1 Aug (4 days ago)
Aamir
Omer's direct hatred for Sunnah
Let us first start with the hadith and note that this hadith is in relevance to Khawrjis and Dhul Khawsira the first Khawrji, just look at Fatwa of Prophet (salallaho alaihi wasalam) in response to what Sayyidna Khalid bin Walid (ra) said:
….there stood up a person with deep snnken eyes, prominent cheek bones, and elevated forehead, thick beard, shaven head, tucked up loin cloth (ممشمر الإزار), and he said: Messenger of Allah, fear Allah. He (the Holy Prophet) said: Woe to thee. do I not deserve most to fear Allah amongst the people of the earth? That man then returned. Khalid b. Walid then said: Messenger of Allah, should I not strike his neck? Upon this he (the Holy Prophet) said: Perhaps he may be observing the prayer. Khalid said: How many observers of prayer are there who profess with their tongue what is not in their heart? Upon this the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: I have not been commanded to pierce through the hearts of people, nor to split their bellies (insides).[Narrated by Abu Said Al-Khudri – RA in Sahih Bukhari Volume 5, Book 59, Number 638]
Even on the biggest Khawrji the Prophet (salallaho alaihi wasalam) taught the Usool that He has not been commanded (or sent) to Pierce through hearts of people nor to split their bellies.
Waseem said: Please Usool k Mutabiq Answer Dena is Time :)
Yeh omer aur Usool kay mutabiq answer day ga?? HUH! iss ki deception fully exposed ho chuki hai lekin phir bhi lame comments diyay ja raha hai just because of his hatred.
Omer had said: For this I have collected this article below to show the reality and all sunnis who have any sort of doubts against it should clear their minds that our beloved Prophet (Salala ho Alahay Wa salam) is far above than the lies people attribute to Him (Salala ho Alahay Wa salam)
….there stood up a person with deep snnken eyes, prominent cheek bones, and elevated forehead, thick beard, shaven head, tucked up loin cloth (ممشمر الإزار), and he said: Messenger of Allah, fear Allah. He (the Holy Prophet) said: Woe to thee. do I not deserve most to fear Allah amongst the people of the earth? That man then returned. Khalid b. Walid then said: Messenger of Allah, should I not strike his neck? Upon this he (the Holy Prophet) said: Perhaps he may be observing the prayer. Khalid said: How many observers of prayer are there who profess with their tongue what is not in their heart? Upon this the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: I have not been commanded to pierce through the hearts of people, nor to split their bellies (insides).[Narrated by Abu Said Al-Khudri – RA in Sahih Bukhari Volume 5, Book 59, Number 638]
Even on the biggest Khawrji the Prophet (salallaho alaihi wasalam) taught the Usool that He has not been commanded (or sent) to Pierce through hearts of people nor to split their bellies.
Waseem said: Please Usool k Mutabiq Answer Dena is Time :)
Yeh omer aur Usool kay mutabiq answer day ga?? HUH! iss ki deception fully exposed ho chuki hai lekin phir bhi lame comments diyay ja raha hai just because of his hatred.
Omer had said: For this I have collected this article below to show the reality and all sunnis who have any sort of doubts against it should clear their minds that our beloved Prophet (Salala ho Alahay Wa salam) is far above than the lies people attribute to Him (Salala ho Alahay Wa salam)
1 Aug (4 days ago)
Aamir
Why I refuted him from GF Haddad!
AstaghfirUllah, yeh Hadees ko attribution of lie kehta hai, is ko khud kuch samjh aati nahi ilzaam Nabi (salallaho alaihi wasalam) par jhoot bandhnay ka lagata hai, Shariah "OFCOURSE" Zahir par laago hoti hai, yeh directly Nabi (salallaho alaihi wasalam) kay Usool kay khilaaf ailaan e Jang kar raha hai and calling ahadith to be lies attributed to him .. Naudhobillah!
Aur yeh jo Article collect karnay ka dawa kar raha hai, wo Alim khud Deobandis ko Musalman mantay hain aur kehtay hain " JAHAN HO SAKAY DEOBANDIS KAY PEECHAY NAMAAZ PARHO" this also prove munafqat of omer as he knows jack about from whom he is quoting!
Aur yeh jo Article collect karnay ka dawa kar raha hai, wo Alim khud Deobandis ko Musalman mantay hain aur kehtay hain " JAHAN HO SAKAY DEOBANDIS KAY PEECHAY NAMAAZ PARHO" this also prove munafqat of omer as he knows jack about from whom he is quoting!
1 Aug (4 days ago)
Omer
Aamir
Why I refuted him from GF Haddad!
AstaghfirUllah, yeh Hadees ko attribution of lie kehta hai, is ko khud kuch samjh aati nahi ilzaam Nabi (salallaho alaihi wasalam) par jhoot bandhnay ka lagata hai, Shariah "OFCOURSE" Zahir par laago hoti hai, yeh directly Nabi (salallaho alaihi wasalam) kay Usool kay khilaaf ailaan e Jang kar raha hai and calling ahadith to be lies attributed to him .. Naudhobillah!
aamir this is another example of ilzam lagana
now you remember question puchna ki jo example di thi mai nai??
aur yah hai ilzam laganay wali example.
i hope ab sahi sai samajh aa gaya ho ga.
ab jo hadith aap nai dusray thread mai sunniyo kai khilaf use ki thi wahi hadith aap ko yaad kara daita houn
Volume 8, Book 73, Number 92: (Sahih Bukhari)
Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah's Apostle said, "Beware of suspicion, for suspicion is the worst of false tales. and do not look for the others' faults, and do not do spying on one another, and do not practice Najsh, and do not be jealous of one another and do not hate one another, and do not desert (stop talking to) one another. And O, Allah's worshipers! Be brothers!"
yah sirf sunniyo kai khilaf hi use karna ata hai??
ya sirf apna ilm dekhanay kai liyae use karna ata hai??
isi ko misuse karna kahtay hain jo is thread mai dekhaya hai mai nai sab sunnis ko
Why I refuted him from GF Haddad!
AstaghfirUllah, yeh Hadees ko attribution of lie kehta hai, is ko khud kuch samjh aati nahi ilzaam Nabi (salallaho alaihi wasalam) par jhoot bandhnay ka lagata hai, Shariah "OFCOURSE" Zahir par laago hoti hai, yeh directly Nabi (salallaho alaihi wasalam) kay Usool kay khilaaf ailaan e Jang kar raha hai and calling ahadith to be lies attributed to him .. Naudhobillah!
aamir this is another example of ilzam lagana
now you remember question puchna ki jo example di thi mai nai??
aur yah hai ilzam laganay wali example.
i hope ab sahi sai samajh aa gaya ho ga.
ab jo hadith aap nai dusray thread mai sunniyo kai khilaf use ki thi wahi hadith aap ko yaad kara daita houn
Volume 8, Book 73, Number 92: (Sahih Bukhari)
Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah's Apostle said, "Beware of suspicion, for suspicion is the worst of false tales. and do not look for the others' faults, and do not do spying on one another, and do not practice Najsh, and do not be jealous of one another and do not hate one another, and do not desert (stop talking to) one another. And O, Allah's worshipers! Be brothers!"
yah sirf sunniyo kai khilaf hi use karna ata hai??
ya sirf apna ilm dekhanay kai liyae use karna ata hai??
isi ko misuse karna kahtay hain jo is thread mai dekhaya hai mai nai sab sunnis ko
1 Aug (4 days ago)
Omer
" JAHAN HO SAKAY DEOBANDIS KAY PEECHAY NAMAAZ PARHO"
hahahahaha
jaha ho sakay deobandis kai peechay namaz parho??
good one aamir
hahahahaha
jaha ho sakay deobandis kai peechay namaz parho??
good one aamir
1 Aug (4 days ago)
Omer
oh yes sunniyo kai liyae bata dou
yah hadith mai nai G F Hadad kai article sai li hain jo kai khud G F Hadad nai Ala Hazrat (RA) kai article sai li hain.
aur aamir kah kahna hai kai :
Aur yeh jo Article collect karnay ka dawa kar raha hai, wo Alim khud Deobandis ko Musalman mantay hain aur kehtay hain " JAHAN HO SAKAY DEOBANDIS KAY PEECHAY NAMAAZ PARHO"
tu bhai Ala Hazrat (RA) nai kaha par yah kaha hai woh bhi dekha du
this also prove munafqat of omer as he knows jack about from whom he is quoting!
aamir for a change aik bar sach bol kar dekho plz
mai nai is article kai end mai hi yah likha hai kai kis ka likha howa hai aur kaha sai liya gaya hai kia yah khula tazad nahi hai
aur tum yaha par phir jhoota ilzam laga rahay ho
ab kia kaho mai??
waisai mai is ko wa izu mantashao wa zilo mantashao kahta houn
yah hadith mai nai G F Hadad kai article sai li hain jo kai khud G F Hadad nai Ala Hazrat (RA) kai article sai li hain.
aur aamir kah kahna hai kai :
Aur yeh jo Article collect karnay ka dawa kar raha hai, wo Alim khud Deobandis ko Musalman mantay hain aur kehtay hain " JAHAN HO SAKAY DEOBANDIS KAY PEECHAY NAMAAZ PARHO"
tu bhai Ala Hazrat (RA) nai kaha par yah kaha hai woh bhi dekha du
this also prove munafqat of omer as he knows jack about from whom he is quoting!
aamir for a change aik bar sach bol kar dekho plz
mai nai is article kai end mai hi yah likha hai kai kis ka likha howa hai aur kaha sai liya gaya hai kia yah khula tazad nahi hai
aur tum yaha par phir jhoota ilzam laga rahay ho
ab kia kaho mai??
waisai mai is ko wa izu mantashao wa zilo mantashao kahta houn
00:31 (9 hours ago)
Omer
aamir posted this hadith:
….there stood up a person with deep snnken eyes, prominent cheek bones, and elevated forehead, thick beard, shaven head, tucked up loin cloth (ممشمر الإزار), and he said: Messenger of Allah, fear Allah. He (the Holy Prophet) said: Woe to thee. do I not deserve most to fear Allah amongst the people of the earth? That man then returned. Khalid b. Walid then said: Messenger of Allah, should I not strike his neck? Upon this he (the Holy Prophet) said: Perhaps he may be observing the prayer. Khalid said: How many observers of prayer are there who profess with their tongue what is not in their heart? Upon this the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: I have not been commanded to pierce through the hearts of people, nor to split their bellies (insides).[Narrated by Abu Said Al-Khudri – RA in Sahih Bukhari Volume 5, Book 59, Number 638]
Even on the biggest Khawrji the Prophet (salallaho alaihi wasalam) taught the Usool that He has not been commanded (or sent) to Pierce through hearts of people nor to split their bellies.
and posted his comments in the end which is in red.
now look at this how he have tempered the hadith and hide the portion in which his sulla kulli would have destroyed. just for the sake of saving his sulla kulli he posted half of hadith.
shame on you aamir.
….there stood up a person with deep snnken eyes, prominent cheek bones, and elevated forehead, thick beard, shaven head, tucked up loin cloth (ممشمر الإزار), and he said: Messenger of Allah, fear Allah. He (the Holy Prophet) said: Woe to thee. do I not deserve most to fear Allah amongst the people of the earth? That man then returned. Khalid b. Walid then said: Messenger of Allah, should I not strike his neck? Upon this he (the Holy Prophet) said: Perhaps he may be observing the prayer. Khalid said: How many observers of prayer are there who profess with their tongue what is not in their heart? Upon this the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: I have not been commanded to pierce through the hearts of people, nor to split their bellies (insides).[Narrated by Abu Said Al-Khudri – RA in Sahih Bukhari Volume 5, Book 59, Number 638]
Even on the biggest Khawrji the Prophet (salallaho alaihi wasalam) taught the Usool that He has not been commanded (or sent) to Pierce through hearts of people nor to split their bellies.
and posted his comments in the end which is in red.
now look at this how he have tempered the hadith and hide the portion in which his sulla kulli would have destroyed. just for the sake of saving his sulla kulli he posted half of hadith.
shame on you aamir.
00:32 (9 hours ago)
Omer
Volume 5, Book 59, Number 638:
Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri:
'Ali bin Abi Talib sent a piece of gold not yet taken out of its ore, in a tanned leather container to Allah's Apostle . Allah's Apostle distributed that amongst four Persons: 'Uyaina bin Badr, Aqra bin Habis, Zaid Al-Khail and the fourth was either Alqama or Amir bin At Tufail. On that, one of his companions said, "We are more deserving of this (gold) than these (persons)." When that news reached the Prophet , he said, "Don't you trust me though I am the truth worthy man of the One in the Heavens, and I receive the news of Heaven (i.e. Divine Inspiration) both in the morning and in the evening?" There got up a man with sunken eyes, raised cheek bones, raised forehead, a thick beard, a shaven head and a waist sheet that was tucked up and he said, "O Allah's Apostle! Be afraid of Allah." The Prophet said, "Woe to you! Am I not of all the people of the earth the most entitled to fear Allah?" Then that man went away. Khalid bin Al-Wahd said, "O Allah's Apostle! Shall I chop his neck off?" The Prophet said, "No, for he may offer prayers." Khalid said, "Numerous are those who offer prayers and say by their tongues (i.e. mouths) what is not in their hearts." Allah's Apostle said, "I have not been ordered (by Allah) to search the hearts of the people or cut open their bellies." Then the Prophet looked at him (i.e. that man) while the latter was going away and said, "From the offspring of this (man there will come out (people) who will recite the Qur'an continuously and elegantly but it will not exceed their throats. (They will neither understand it nor act upon it). They would go out of the religion (i.e. Islam) as an arrow goes through a game's body." I think he also said, "If I should be present at their time I would kill them as the nations a Thamud were killed."
Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri:
'Ali bin Abi Talib sent a piece of gold not yet taken out of its ore, in a tanned leather container to Allah's Apostle . Allah's Apostle distributed that amongst four Persons: 'Uyaina bin Badr, Aqra bin Habis, Zaid Al-Khail and the fourth was either Alqama or Amir bin At Tufail. On that, one of his companions said, "We are more deserving of this (gold) than these (persons)." When that news reached the Prophet , he said, "Don't you trust me though I am the truth worthy man of the One in the Heavens, and I receive the news of Heaven (i.e. Divine Inspiration) both in the morning and in the evening?" There got up a man with sunken eyes, raised cheek bones, raised forehead, a thick beard, a shaven head and a waist sheet that was tucked up and he said, "O Allah's Apostle! Be afraid of Allah." The Prophet said, "Woe to you! Am I not of all the people of the earth the most entitled to fear Allah?" Then that man went away. Khalid bin Al-Wahd said, "O Allah's Apostle! Shall I chop his neck off?" The Prophet said, "No, for he may offer prayers." Khalid said, "Numerous are those who offer prayers and say by their tongues (i.e. mouths) what is not in their hearts." Allah's Apostle said, "I have not been ordered (by Allah) to search the hearts of the people or cut open their bellies." Then the Prophet looked at him (i.e. that man) while the latter was going away and said, "From the offspring of this (man there will come out (people) who will recite the Qur'an continuously and elegantly but it will not exceed their throats. (They will neither understand it nor act upon it). They would go out of the religion (i.e. Islam) as an arrow goes through a game's body." I think he also said, "If I should be present at their time I would kill them as the nations a Thamud were killed."
00:33 (9 hours ago)
Omer
by showing half part of hadith aamir have done his manipulation once agian to hide the reality.
i have put the rest of the part in bold.
as you can see in the part which aamir was hiding it is clearly mentioned that what our beloved Prophet صلی اللہ علیھ وآلھ وسلم have told people about that khawarij.
this is not it. the end of hadith is really interesting: I think he also said, "If I should be present at their time I would kill them as the nations a Thamud were killed."
here is the end of sulla kulli.
this is the reason aamir did manipulation.
read again and again and again
I think he also said, "If I should be present at their time I would kill them as the nations a Thamud were killed."
I think he also said, "If I should be present at their time I would kill them as the nations a Thamud were killed."
I think he also said, "If I should be present at their time I would kill them as the nations a Thamud were killed."
I think he also said, "If I should be present at their time I would kill them as the nations a Thamud were killed."
I think he also said, "If I should be present at their time I would kill them as the nations a Thamud were killed."
this is the reason aamir said he takes back the takfir over deobandis. this is the reason aamir support sulla kulli.
but this hadith itself is death of sulla kulli
i have put the rest of the part in bold.
as you can see in the part which aamir was hiding it is clearly mentioned that what our beloved Prophet صلی اللہ علیھ وآلھ وسلم have told people about that khawarij.
this is not it. the end of hadith is really interesting: I think he also said, "If I should be present at their time I would kill them as the nations a Thamud were killed."
here is the end of sulla kulli.
this is the reason aamir did manipulation.
read again and again and again
I think he also said, "If I should be present at their time I would kill them as the nations a Thamud were killed."
I think he also said, "If I should be present at their time I would kill them as the nations a Thamud were killed."
I think he also said, "If I should be present at their time I would kill them as the nations a Thamud were killed."
I think he also said, "If I should be present at their time I would kill them as the nations a Thamud were killed."
I think he also said, "If I should be present at their time I would kill them as the nations a Thamud were killed."
this is the reason aamir said he takes back the takfir over deobandis. this is the reason aamir support sulla kulli.
but this hadith itself is death of sulla kulli
01:08 (9 hours ago)
Aamir
Omer's false accusations to catch some attention!
There is absolutly no manipulation in hadith, the part where Prophet (salallaho alaihi wasalam) clarified the usool is absolutly clear and the initial part mentioning traits of Khawrjis was also shown, The later part also proves my point to be right because Prophet (salallaho alaihi wasalam) "KNEW WHAT WAS IN HEART OF THAT KHAWRJI BUT STILL HE SAID HE HAS NOT BEEN COMMANDED TO PIERCE HEARTS OF PEOPLE"
Now about killing Khawrjis today, the Prophet (salallaho alaihi wasalam) has even made it clear in sahih ahadith that whosever kills them will get reward from Allah, BUT STILL Khawrjits are not to be killed today because Shariah always applies on DHAHIR, even the Prophet (salallaho alaihi wasalam) applied it on dhahir "AT THAT TIME" though he was himself fully aware of what these people will do in future.
This is without any shadow of doubt a proof on what brother Waseem also said that knowing Ilm ul Ghayb does not mean Fatwas will be given on Batin!
Awliya indeed saw with Firasah but still they called Ibn Taymiyyah as Sheikh ul Islam, Abid Zahid, still Imam Ghazzali (rah) rejected the Takfir on Yazid, hence Fatwa could never be on Batin, Omer is misguided because of his blind following of MsAli and he is accusing other people wrongly of misusing hadith!
Now about killing Khawrjis today, the Prophet (salallaho alaihi wasalam) has even made it clear in sahih ahadith that whosever kills them will get reward from Allah, BUT STILL Khawrjits are not to be killed today because Shariah always applies on DHAHIR, even the Prophet (salallaho alaihi wasalam) applied it on dhahir "AT THAT TIME" though he was himself fully aware of what these people will do in future.
This is without any shadow of doubt a proof on what brother Waseem also said that knowing Ilm ul Ghayb does not mean Fatwas will be given on Batin!
Awliya indeed saw with Firasah but still they called Ibn Taymiyyah as Sheikh ul Islam, Abid Zahid, still Imam Ghazzali (rah) rejected the Takfir on Yazid, hence Fatwa could never be on Batin, Omer is misguided because of his blind following of MsAli and he is accusing other people wrongly of misusing hadith!
01:17 (9 hours ago)
Aamir
Above all Prophet (salallaho alaihi wasalam) knew that Fitnah will come from that person's offsprings and he even said that Had he been present then he would have killed them, INSPITE OF ALL THIS PROPHET (SALALLAHO ALAIHI WASALAM) SAID NO TO KHALID BIN WALID AT THAT VERY INSTANT WHEN HE ASKED HIM TO KILL THE KHAWRJI
Knowing all things that from this person fitnah will start, and also knowing all his traits but still not applying fatwa on Batin is a decisive proof Plus Prophet (salallaho alaihi wasalam) rejected the saying of Sayyidna Khalid bin Walid (ra)
Khalid bin Al-Wahd said, "O Allah's Apostle! Shall I chop his neck off?" The Prophet said, "No, for he may offer prayers." Khalid said, "Numerous are those who offer prayers and say by their tongues (i.e. mouths) what is not in their hearts." Allah's Apostle said, "I have not been ordered (by Allah) to search the hearts of the people or cut open their bellies."
Omer you are refuting yourself due to your pseudo Knowledge!
Knowing all things that from this person fitnah will start, and also knowing all his traits but still not applying fatwa on Batin is a decisive proof Plus Prophet (salallaho alaihi wasalam) rejected the saying of Sayyidna Khalid bin Walid (ra)
Khalid bin Al-Wahd said, "O Allah's Apostle! Shall I chop his neck off?" The Prophet said, "No, for he may offer prayers." Khalid said, "Numerous are those who offer prayers and say by their tongues (i.e. mouths) what is not in their hearts." Allah's Apostle said, "I have not been ordered (by Allah) to search the hearts of the people or cut open their bellies."
Omer you are refuting yourself due to your pseudo Knowledge!
01:40 (8 hours ago)
Omer
Now about killing Khawrjis today, the Prophet (salallaho alaihi wasalam) has even made it clear in sahih ahadith that whosever kills them will get reward from Allah, BUT STILL Khawrjits are not to be killed today because Shariah always applies on DHAHIR, even the Prophet (salallaho alaihi wasalam) applied it on dhahir "AT THAT TIME" though he was himself fully aware of what these people will do in future.
self made story
hahahahahah
cuz its saying of our beloved Prophet صلی اللہ علیھ وآلھ وسلم where ever you find them kill them and Allah will give reward on the judgment day.
here is the third manipulation so far.
1 - aamir said i didnt know from where i have taken that article which is absolutely a lie and aamir reality is exposed
2 - he hide a part of hadith to hide the truth. (same like jew did about the punishment of naza)
3 - now he is making up his stories to hide his previous lies and manipulations.
shame on you aamir. atleast stop lieing about our beloved Prophet صلی اللہ علیھ وآلھ وسلم
you have lied about me i dont mind and now making up story that BUT STILL Khawrjits are not to be killed today.
have some shame.
self made story
hahahahahah
cuz its saying of our beloved Prophet صلی اللہ علیھ وآلھ وسلم where ever you find them kill them and Allah will give reward on the judgment day.
here is the third manipulation so far.
1 - aamir said i didnt know from where i have taken that article which is absolutely a lie and aamir reality is exposed
2 - he hide a part of hadith to hide the truth. (same like jew did about the punishment of naza)
3 - now he is making up his stories to hide his previous lies and manipulations.
shame on you aamir. atleast stop lieing about our beloved Prophet صلی اللہ علیھ وآلھ وسلم
you have lied about me i dont mind and now making up story that BUT STILL Khawrjits are not to be killed today.
have some shame.
